Gun Control Fail: Charleston family victims sue the FBI

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US Sued Over Gun Background Check/  Photo: By Harriet McLeod

by Harriet McLeod


Good for them! Finally, hold someone accountable for the mistake that was made with EXISTING laws. What about the shooter from Miami, who was watched and on the FBI list?  This issue is very complicated and has to navigate around American rights & liberties. Protecting American rights and liberties is crucial for the coming days, if nothing else, Americans should be taught to defend themselves. The nanny state is getting us nowhere.



From Fact Check: On ABC’s “This Week,” U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch declined — twice — to say how many Americans are on the terrorist watch list, claiming “we don’t provide those exact numbers” or even a range. That’s false. Federal officials have told Congress that the number of “U.S. persons” on terrorist watch lists ranges from 5,000 to 15,000.

Lynch made her remarks when asked about Feinstein’s amendment by “This Week” host Jonathan Karl.

Karl, June 19: The Justice Department has come out in favor of this idea of the no-fly, no-buy. If you’re on the terrorist watch list, the no-fly list, you shouldn’t be able to buy a gun. How many Americans are on the terrorist watch list?

Lynch: You know, we don’t provide those exact numbers.

Karl: Can you give me a range? I mean, what are we talking about here?

Lynch: Well, as I said we don’t provide those exact numbers.

As we have written before, there are multiple databases that contain the names of suspected or known terrorists. The largest is the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment, or TIDE. The National Counterterrorism Center maintains TIDE, which the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service in a 2013 report referred to as the government’s “central repository” of international terrorists and suspected terrorists. The number on that list stood at 1.1 million as of December 2013, including 25,000 “U.S. persons” (that is, citizens and legal permanent residents), according to an NCTC fact sheet.

As of June 17, the total number of names on the TIDE list had grown to 1.5 million names, although the number of U.S. persons shrunk to “fewer than 15,000,” according to Feinstein’s office.

The FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center separately maintains the Terrorist Screening Database, which is commonly referred to as the Terrorist Watchlist. The FBI told Feinstein’s office that there are about 1 million records in the TSDB, and about 0.5 percent of those — or fewer than 5,000 records — are of U.S. persons. The watch list includes about 81,000 names on the so-called no-fly list, including fewer than 1,000 names of U.S. persons.

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